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  1. Don't Pass Odds In Craps
  2. Don't Pass Odds Payouts
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  4. Don't Pass Odds Payouts

Don't Pass: Bets on the don't pass, are betting the opposite of the pass line. Rolling a 2 or 3 wins on the come out roll, 12 is a push. If 7 or 11 rolls all bets on the don't pass lose. Any other number becomes the point. After the point has been established the don't pass wins on 7 and loses if the point is rolled again.

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Don't Pass Odds In Craps

i have a question about odds placing on dont come. what is the proper way to place the odds on the table for dont pass, seems every time i puy them down, the table people will arrange them some other way. if i put them on my right side they put them on the left, if i put them on the left side of my bet they put them on right, What gives, is there a specific way to lay the odds next to yor bet?
wudged
Your flat bet should be between the stick person and your odds.

The odds of you winning both a pass and don't pass bet is 49.3%, making this one of the best bets to place when playing craps. If you are new to the game, then this bet is a great way to get confidence around the table. Come/Don't Come Bets. This player has a Don't Pass bet with odds and a Don't Come bet and is laying odds on against the point of 4 and 8. If 4 rolls, he loses his bet on the 4. If the 8 rolls, he loses his bet on the 8. If 7 rolls, he wins both bets. The vast majority of players are pass line, or ‘right side' bettors. The Biden administration on Thursday ruled out splitting its $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief plan into two, heightening the odds that Democrats would pass their package through a party-line.

TerribleTom
I usually bet table minimum + odds on the DP.
$5 on the line, point established, $30 in odds heeled - placed just barely on the edge of the chip on the line all in one neat stack.
Knowing when to heel or bridge your chips is part of craps etiquette.
I am not sure which side is preferred. I tend to set up on the end of the table to the right of the stick whenever possible, position 14 or so, and heel my odds on the left of my line wager (away from the bank/dealer) and have never had the dealer ask me to re-position my bet.
http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/craps/14712-bridging-vs-heeling-your-odds-on-the-dont/
I'd love to see Ahigh or someone put up a Youtube video explaining the whole bridge/heel and which side to use in detail.
SanchoPanza

i have a question about odds placing on dont come. what is the proper way to place the odds on the table for dont pass,?

For the DC, you don't have to worry. You're not allowed to position the odds. As don't come players tend to gravitate next to the dealer because of ease and convention, you can put down whatever permitted odds chips you want on the apron near the DC box. The dealer will move them and/or let you know if that's all right with him/her.
Ahigh
Don T Pass Odds
For the don't pass, the correct position for the don't pass bet is directly in front of you. If you are on the stick man's right side, your lay odds go on the right. If you are on the stick man's left side, your odds go on the left. The dealer will pay lay odds bets starting with the closest to him. They pay the lay odds bet first and the don't pass bet second when they are set up properly.
The only time that you would stack it on the wrong side would be if there is more than one person playing the don't pass on your side of the table and you're not the first person to do a lay odds bet.
In that case, you follow the convention of the other players for consistency to prevent your bet from being confused with the person next to you if they take their bet away.
You generally bridge stack when the lay odds and the don't pass bet both win the same amount of money.
The exception would be if you have a $6 don't pass and a $9 lay odds on a five or a nine. You can actually bridge stack this, but a dealer will very likely change it to a heel stack. It can be comical.
SGIT

The exception would be if you have a $6 don't pass and a $9 lay odds on a four or a nine. You can actually bridge stack this, but a dealer will very likely change it to a heel stack. It can be comical.


I'm guessing that you meant 5 or 9, because $9 lay odds on a 4 will result in a $4 or $4.50 payoff (depending on breakage).
Ahigh

I'm guessing that you meant 5 or 9, because $9 lay odds on a 4 will result in a $4 or $4.50 payoff (depending on breakage).


Yes, and there are more cases where you win the same amount, but where, because there are different colored chips involved, most dealers will expect the lay odds to be a heel stack instead of a bridge stack.
I generally like to bridge stack anything that qualifies as possible just to see if the dealer will heel stack it anyway, and then ask them why it can't be bridged stack if I am winning the same amount from the lay odds as the flat bet.
But always heel stack if you have multiple chip colors on the don't pass and are not a trouble maker like me.
Tomspur
It all depends on payouts. if the dealer can simply cut into the bridge to pay then that is whatw ill happen but if the dealer cannot cut into the bridge, in other words the payout amount is not equal to two times the 'bottom' of the bridge, then the dealer will heel the odds in such a way that he and the boxman can clearly see the amount of odds layed.
The guys who have previously answered are mostly correct.
'There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man.' - Winston Churchill
guitarmandp
For some reason I do a lot better when I bet a big flat bet than betting the minimum with odds. For example yesterday I bet $10 and did 5x odds and I lost $400. It especially hurt when the shooter made back to back 10's and I lost $100 each time. Today I just bet $50 on the don't pass with no odds and I made $800.
TerribleTom

For some reason I do a lot better when I bet a big flat bet than betting the minimum with odds. For example yesterday I bet $10 and did 5x odds and I lost $400. It especially hurt when the shooter made back to back 10's and I lost $100 each time. Today I just bet $50 on the don't pass with no odds and I made $800.


Mathematically, that's a terrible idea.
The risk of 7/11 on the come out roll is too great.
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THE DARK SIDE

What is the dark side of craps? It's not some evil plot by the casino, although it may feel like it when the dice are cold.

The dark side refers to a family of bets which have the opposite win-loss conditions of the pass types bets. It can also be an adjective that describes players who bet on the Don't Pass or Don't Come.

It's actually called the dark side for a very simple reason. The betting area for the Don't Pass or Don't Come bet is usually written, on the felt, in darker lettering then the Pass or Come bet. It's written in darker lettering so that players do not confuse the bets, ensuring that a dark side bettor knows that he or she is betting on the ‘Don't Pass' or ‘Don't Come'. Adobe premiere pro 64 bit.

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TERMS USED

The term ‘dark side' is craps parlance which is a catch-all for the Don't Pass bet, Don't Pass odds bets, Don't Come bet, Don't Come odds bet, Place-to-Lose bets, Lay Against buy bets, Don't Pass bettor, and Don't Come bettor.

In a casino, most of the time, you will hear a dark side action referred to simply as ‘Don't', which is another catch-all term.

The letters ‘DC', which is probably the most commonly spoken dark side term at a craps table, refers specifically to the ‘Don't Come' bet. This term is not a catch-all term.

So if you want to make a last minute Don't bet, and you want to avoid sticking your hand in the throwing area, say, for example, ‘$10 DC' for the Don't Come; or ‘$10 Don't' for the Don't Pass (I've never heard of the Don't Pass referred to as the ‘DP' in a live game). If you want to bet an amount other than $10, just state the amount.

When in doubt as to what to call your bet, just say the amount and then the word, ‘Don't'. For example, if the puck is OFF and no point has been established, and you say ‘$10 DC', the dealer will clarify your bet or perhaps ‘no bet' you. The Don't Come is not in play at that moment, so saying ‘$10 DC' may be construed as a nonsensical bet. Most dealers will understand what you meant to bet, correct you, and say, ‘$10 don't pass'. But if you run into a rookie dealer, don't be surprised if the response is either a look of confusion or ‘no bet'.

WIN-LOSS CONDITIONS OF THE DARK SIDE

In a pass line bet, the bettor will win on a come out roll of 7 or 11, lose on a come out 2,3 or 12, and must repeat the point numbers (4,5,6,8,9,10) before the 7 in order to win. The pass line bettor will lose if the 7 rolls before a point if there is a point established.

If a player bets the opposite of the pass bet, then the player assumes the opposite conditions that I described for the pass line. On a dark side come out roll, the dark side bettor will win on a 2 or 3 and lose on a 7 or 11. The player will push/tie on a 12 (this push is how the house retains the advantage on the bettor). If the dark side bettor establishes a point, then the dark side bettor will win if the 7 rolls before the point. Artstudio pro 1 3 12 download free. That's nearly the exact opposite of the pass line bettor, barring the 12 on the come out.

LAYING ODDS ON THE DARK SIDE

The vast majority of players are pass line, or ‘right side' bettors. One of the reasons why players do not like the dark side is because the odds bet requires players to lay odds for the house. This means that all payouts on the pass line are reversed. Players who bet on the dark side must bet the following to win the following:

Point is 4 or 10, the player must wager $2 to win $1. For example, a $100 lay on the point 4 or 10 will win $50.

Point is 5 or 9, the player must lay $3 to win $2. For example, a $75 lay on the point of 5 or 9 will win $50.

Point is 6 or 8, the player must lay $6 to win 5. For example, a $60 lay on the point of 6 or 8 will pay $50.

If you notice, it is the exact opposite of the odds payouts offered on the pass line odds.

HOUSE EDGE ON THE DON'T PASS AND DON'T COME

The house edge on the Don't Pass and Don't Come is 1.36% of the bet. So if you bet $100 worth of action on the Don't Pass or Don't Come, you can expect to lose $1.36 over the long run.

With odds, the house edge on the combined bet falls significantly. At 10x odds, the house edge on the combined bet falls to .12% of total action.

Many players hate the fact that laying odds requires a larger wager than the collected win, and thus try to bypass the perceived inequity by making a larger come out wager. If the player can survive the come out wager, the player will then possess a significant advantage over the house. If the dark side player can survive the come out roll, the player will have an advantage of 2-1, 3-2, or 6-5. However, the problem is that on the come out roll, the player is at a severe and stomach-churning disadvantage. On the come out roll the player is at an 8-3 disadvantage, with only 3 ways to win and 8 ways to lose.

On a combinatorial analysis, with all possibilities calculated, is it far better, over the long run, for the player to separate his total bet into a minimum Don't Pass or Don't Come bet and wager the rest by laying odds. This means that if you have $50, you are better off betting $5 (if that's the minimum) on the Don't Pass or Don't Come and putting the remains $45 on laying the odds; rather than putting the entire $50 on the Don't Pass or Don't Come.

SHOOTING FROM THE DON'T

Players often ask if a shooter may ‘bet against himself' and shoot from the dark side. The answer is yes. A player may shoot from the dark side. When a player elects to shoot from the dark side (which doesn't happen often), the stick person will usually announce, as a matter of custom, ‘shooting from the don't'.

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PICKING UP THE DARK SIDE DON'T PASS OR DON'T COME BET

Unlike the pass line or come bet, the player may pick up his Don't Pass or Don't Come bet after the point has rolled. The reason the casino allows the withdrawal of the Don't bet is that after the come out roll, the player is now at an advantage over the house. Thus, the player should never pick up his Don't Pass or Don't Come bet after the come out roll.

Of course, having the advantage is not the same as actually winning, which leads us to…

MATHEMATICALLY EXPENSIVE STRATEGIES COMMONLY EMPLOYED

There are two common strategies often employed by dark side bettors that are expensive in the long run: ensuring the dark side bet with ‘any 7' and picking up the Don't Come or Don't Pass if the point is 6 or 8.

It's a fact that combining bets will not turn a negative expectation bet into a positive expectation bet. In other words, the player is not protecting his bets, over the long run, by combining bets; despite appearances of the bets being ‘insured'. By combining a low house edge bet (the Don't Come or Don't Pass bet) with a high house edge bet (the Any 7), the player is only increasing his total loss and would have been better of not betting the Any 7.

As to the strategy of picking up on a 6 or 8, the player is giving up a 6 to 5 advantage over the house. Of all the bad dark side strategies, this strategy is the most difficult to explain to dark side players. It seems to be way too easy to roll a 6 or 8, so many dark side bettors will fear to continue the bet. Little caesars casino las vegas. Mathematically, this is a disastrous strategy in the long run, because the player has a 6-5 edge over the house on a point of 6 or 8.

Rather than trying to use math to try and convince dark side players not to pick up on the point of 6 or 8, I explain it this way, ‘if the point is 6, you get a free roll on the house if either of the dice shows a 6'; alternatively, if ‘the point is 8, then your free roll is either dice show a 1'. Why would you ever give up a free roll?

For those who aren't aware, a free roll is a situation or bet where the bettor can only win and cannot lose.

Generally, I'm not a fan of the argument, ‘if the house offers it, it must be a bad bet'; however, in this case, the house is only offering the ability to withdraw the bet because withdrawing heavily favors the house. So, the house is only offering it because it's a bad bet.

WARNING ABOUT THE DARKSIDE

It's a simple warning: betting on the dark side can be a lonely and sometimes hostile experience because most players are pass line bettors. If the table wins, the dark side bettor loses; and if the dark side bettor wins, the table loses. Sometimes, if there is a table bully, some nasty words may be said towards the dark side bettor.

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